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(D.23.-6)Tavatimsadeva-upama
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- (D.23.-7)Jaccandha-upama
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- (D.23.-9)Supinaka-upama
(D.23.-6)Tavatimsadeva-upama417. “Tena hi, Rajabba, tabbevettha patipucchissami; yatha te khameyya, tatha nam byakareyyasi. Yam kho pana, Rajabba, manussakam vassasatam, devanam tavatimsanam eso eko rattindivo§ , taya rattiya timsarattiyo maso, tena masena dvadasamasiyo samvaccharo, tena samvaccharena dibbam vassasahassam devanam tavatimsanam ayuppamanam. Ye te mittamacca batisalohita panatipata pativirata adinnadana pativirata kamesumicchacara pativirata musavada pativirata suramerayamajjapamadatthana pativirata, te kayassa bheda param marana sugatim saggam lokam upapanna devanam tavatimsanam sahabyatam. Sace pana tesam evam bhavissati-- ‘Yava mayam dve va tini va rattindiva dibbehi pabcahi kamagunehi samappita samavgibhuta paricarema, atha mayam Payasissa rajabbassa gantva aroceyyama-- “Itipi atthi paro loko, atthi satta opapatika, atthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako”ti. Api nu te agantva aroceyyum ‘Itipi atthi paro loko, atthi satta opapatika, atthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako’”ti? “No hidam, bho Kassapa. Api hi mayam, bho Kassapa, ciram kalavkatapi bhaveyyama. Ko panetam bhoto Kassapassa aroceti (CS:pg.2.262) ‘Atthi deva tavatimsa’ti va ‘Evamdighayuka deva tavatimsa’ti va. Na mayam (D.23./II,328.) bhoto Kassapassa saddahama-- ‘Atthi deva tavatimsa’ti va ‘Evamdighayuka deva tavatimsa’ti va”ti. (D.23.-7)Jaccandha-upama418. “Seyyathapi, Rajabba, jaccandho puriso na passeyya kanha-- sukkani rupani na passeyya nilakani rupani, na passeyya pitakani§ rupani, na passeyya lohitakani rupani, na passeyya mabjitthakani rupani, na passeyya samavisamam, na passeyya tarakani rupani, na passeyya candimasuriye. So evam vadeyya-- ‘Natthi kanhasukkani rupani, natthi kanhasukkanam rupanam dassavi. Natthi nilakani rupani, natthi nilakanam rupanam dassavi. Natthi pitakani rupani, natthi pitakanam rupanam dassavi. Natthi lohitakani rupani, natthi lohitakanam rupanam dassavi. Natthi mabjitthakani rupani, natthi mabjitthakanam rupanam dassavi. Natthi samavisamam, natthi samavisamassa dassavi. Natthi tarakani rupani, natthi tarakanam rupanam dassavi. Natthi candimasuriya, natthi candimasuriyanam dassavi. Ahametam na janami, ahametam na passami, tasma tam natthi’ti. Samma nu kho so, Rajabba, vadamano vadeyya”ti? “No hidam, bho Kassapa. Atthi kanhasukkani rupani, atthi kanhasukkanam rupanam dassavi. Atthi nilakani rupani, atthi nilakanam rupanam dassavi …pe… (D.23./II,329.) atthi samavisamam, atthi samavisamassa dassavi. Atthi tarakani rupani, atthi tarakanam rupanam dassavi. Atthi candimasuriya, atthi candimasuriyanam dassavi. ‘Ahametam na janami, ahametam na passami, tasma tam natthi’ti. Na hi so, bho Kassapa, samma vadamano vadeyya”ti. “Evameva kho tvam, Rajabba, jaccandhupamo mabbe patibhasi yam mam tvam evam vadesi”. “Ko panetam bhoto Kassapassa aroceti-- ‘Atthi deva tavatimsa”ti va, ‘Evamdighayuka deva tavatimsa’ti va? Na mayam bhoto Kassapassa saddahama-- ‘Atthi deva tavatimsa’ti va ‘evamdighayuka deva tavatimsa’ti va”ti. “Na kho, Rajabba, evam paro loko datthabbo, yatha tvam mabbasi imina mamsacakkhuna. Ye kho te Rajabba samanabrahmana arabbavanapatthani pantani senasanani patisevanti (CS:pg.2.263) te tattha appamatta atapino pahitatta viharanta dibbacakkhum visodhenti. Te dibbena cakkhuna visuddhena atikkantamanusakena imam ceva lokam passanti parabca satte ca opapatike. Evabca kho, Rajabba, paro loko datthabbo; natveva yatha tvam mabbasi imina mamsacakkhuna. Iminapi kho te, Rajabba, pariyayena evam hotu-- ‘Itipi atthi paro loko, atthi satta opapatika, atthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako’”ti. 419. “Kibcapi bhavam Kassapo evamaha, atha kho (D.23./II,330.) evam me ettha hoti-- ‘Itipi natthi paro loko, natthi satta opapatika, natthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako”ti “Atthi pana, Rajabba, pariyayo …pe… atthi, bho Kassapa, pariyayo …pe… yatha katham viya, Rajabba”ti? “Idhaham, bho Kassapa, passami samanabrahmane silavante kalyanadhamme jivitukame amaritukame sukhakame dukkhapatikule. Tassa mayham, bho Kassapa, evam hoti-- sace kho ime bhonto samanabrahmana silavanto kalyanadhamma evam janeyyum-- ‘Ito no matanam seyyo bhavissati’ti. Idanime bhonto samanabrahmana silavanto kalyanadhamma visam va khadeyyum, sattham va ahareyyum, ubbandhitva va kalavkareyyum, papate va papateyyum. Yasma ca kho ime bhonto samanabrahmana silavanto kalyanadhamma na evam jananti-- ‘Ito no matanam seyyo bhavissati’ti, tasma ime bhonto samanabrahmana silavanto kalyanadhamma jivitukama amaritukama sukhakama dukkhapatikula attanam na marenti§ . Ayampi kho, bho Kassapa, pariyayo, yena me pariyayena evam hoti-- ‘Itipi natthi paro loko, natthi satta opapatika, natthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako’”ti. (D.23.-8)Gabbhini-upama420. “Tena hi, Rajabba, upamam te karissami. Upamaya midhekacce vibbu purisa bhasitassa attham ajananti. Bhutapubbam, Rajabba, abbatarassa brahmanassa (CS:pg.2.264) dve pajapatiyo ahesum. Ekissa putto ahosi dasavassuddesiko va dvadasavassuddesiko va, eka gabbhini upavijabba. Atha kho so brahmano kalamakasi. Atha kho so manavako matusapattim§ etadavoca-- ‘Yamidam, bhoti, dhanam va dhabbam va rajatam va jatarupam va, sabbam tam (D.23./II,331.) mayham natthi tuyhettha kibci. Pitu me§ bhoti, dayajjam niyyadehi’ti § . Evam vutte sa brahmani tam manavakam etadavoca-- ‘Agamehi tava, tata, yava vijayami. Sace kumarako bhavissati, tassapi ekadeso bhavissati; sace kumarika bhavissati, sapi te opabhogga§ bhavissati’ti. Dutiyampi kho so manavako matusapattim etadavoca-- ‘Yamidam, bhoti, dhanam va dhabbam va rajatam va jatarupam va, sabbam tam (D.23./II,331.) mayham; natthi tuyhettha kibci. Pitu me, bhoti, dayajjam niyyadehi’ti. Dutiyampi kho sa brahmani tam manavakam etadavoca-- ‘Agamehi tava, tata, yava vijayami. Sace kumarako bhavissati, tassapi ekadeso bhavissati; sace kumarika bhavissati sapi te opabhogga§ bhavissati’ti. Tatiyampi kho so manavako matusapattim etadavoca-- ‘Yamidam, bhoti, dhanam va dhabbam va rajatam va jatarupam va sabbam tam mayham; natthi tuyhettha kibci. Pitu me, bhoti, dayajjam niyyadehi’ti. “Atha kho sa brahmani sattham gahetva ovarakam pavisitva udaram opadesi§ -- ‘Yava vijayami yadi va kumarako yadi va kumarika’ti. Sa attanam ceva jivitabca gabbhabca sapateyyabca vinasesi. Yatha tam bala abyatta anayabyasanam apanna ayoniso dayajjam gavesanti, evameva kho tvam, Rajabba, balo abyatto anayabyasanam apajjissasi ayoniso paralokam (D.23./II,332.) gavesanto seyyathapi sa brahmani bala abyatta anayabyasanam apanna ayoniso dayajjam gavesanti. Na kho, Rajabba, samanabrahmana silavanto kalyanadhamma apakkam paripacenti; api ca paripakam agamenti. Panditanam attho hi, Rajabba, samanabrahmananam silavantanam kalyanadhammanam jivitena. Yatha yatha kho, Rajabba, samanabrahmana silavanto kalyanadhamma ciram dighamaddhanam titthanti, tatha (CS:pg.2.265) tatha bahum pubbam pasavanti, bahujanahitaya ca patipajjanti bahujanasukhaya lokanukampaya atthaya hitaya sukhaya devamanussanam. Iminapi kho te, Rajabba, pariyayena evam hotu-- ‘Itipi atthi paro loko, atthi satta opapatika, atthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako’”ti. 421. “Kibcapi bhavam Kassapo evamaha, atha kho evam me ettha hoti-- ‘Itipi natthi paro loko, natthi satta opapatika, natthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako’”ti. “Atthi pana, Rajabba, pariyayo …pe… atthi, bho Kassapa, pariyayo …pe… yatha katham viya, Rajabba”ti? “Idha me, bho Kassapa, purisa coram agucarim gahetva dassenti-- ‘Ayam te, bhante, coro agucari; imassa yam icchasi, tam dandam panehi’ti. Tyaham evam vadami-- ‘Tena hi, bho, imam purisam jivantamyeva kumbhiya pakkhipitva mukham pidahitva allena cammena onandhitva allaya mattikaya bahalavalepanam§ karitva uddhanam aropetva aggim detha’ti. Te me ‘sadhu’ti patissutva tam purisam jivantamyeva kumbhiya pakkhipitva mukham pidahitva allena cammena onandhitva allaya mattikaya bahalavalepanam karitva (D.23./II,333.) uddhanam aropetva aggim denti. Yada mayam janama ‘kalavkato so puriso’ti, atha nam kumbhim oropetva ubbhinditva mukham vivaritva sanikam nillokema§ -- ‘Appeva namassa jivam nikkhamantam passeyyama’ti. Nevassa mayam jivam nikkhamantam passama. Ayampi kho, bho Kassapa, pariyayo, yena me pariyayena evam hoti-- ‘Itipi natthi paro loko, natthi satta opapatika, natthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako’”ti. (D.23.-9)Supinaka-upama422. “Tena hi, Rajabba, tabbevettha patipucchissami, yatha te khameyya, tatha nam byakareyyasi. Abhijanasi no tvam, Rajabba, diva seyyam upagato supinakam passita aramaramaneyyakam vanaramaneyyakam bhumiramaneyyakam pokkharaniramaneyyakan”ti? “Abhijanamaham, bho Kassapa, divaseyyam upagato supinakam passita aramaramaneyyakam vanaramaneyyakam bhumiramaneyyakam pokkharaniramaneyyakan”ti. “Rakkhanti tam tamhi samaye khujjapi (CS:pg.2.266) vamanakapi velasikapi § komarikapi”ti? “Evam, bho Kassapa, rakkhanti mam tamhi samaye khujjapi vamanakapi velasikapi§ komarikapi”ti. “Api nu ta tuyham jivam passanti pavisantam va nikkhamantam va”ti? (D.23./II,334.) “No hidam, bho Kassapa”. “Ta hi nama, Rajabba, tuyham jivantassa jivantiyo jivam na passissanti pavisantam va nikkhamantam va. Kim pana tvam kalavkatassa jivam passissasi pavisantam va nikkhamantam va. Iminapi kho te, Rajabba, pariyayena evam hotu-- “Itipi atthi paro loko, atthi satta opapatika, atthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako’”ti. 423. “Kibcapi bhavam Kassapo evamaha, atha kho evam me ettha hoti-- ‘Itipi natthi paro loko, natthi satta opapatika, natthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako’”ti. “Atthi pana, Rajabba, pariyayo …pe… “Atthi, bho Kassapa, pariyayo …pe… yatha katham viya Rajabba”ti? “Idha me, bho Kassapa, purisa coram agucarim gahetva dassenti-- ‘Ayam te, bhante, coro agucari; imassa yam icchasi, tam dandam panehi’ti. Tyaham evam vadami-- ‘Tena hi, bho, imam purisam jivantamyeva tulaya tuletva jiyaya anassasakam maretva punadeva tulaya tuletha’ti. Te me ‘sadhu’ti patissutva tam purisam jivantamyeva tulaya tuletva jiyaya anassasakam maretva punadeva tulaya tulenti. Yada so jivati, tada lahutaro ca hoti mudutaro ca kammabbataro ca. Yada pana so kalavkato hoti tada garutaro ca hoti patthinnataro ca akammabbataro ca. Ayampi kho, bho Kassapa, pariyayo, yena me pariyayena evam hoti-- ‘Itipi natthi paro loko, natthi satta opapatika, natthi sukatadukkatanam kammanam phalam vipako’”ti.
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